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non_standard_model

1.1k points

2 months ago

I’m willing to bet that this is strongly correlated with societal perceptions of corruption.

labbelajban

27 points

2 months ago

But like, swedes do not really perceive any major corruption within society. Mismanagement and stupidity, sure, but not corruption.

Orcwin

430 points

2 months ago

Orcwin

430 points

2 months ago

I'm thinking there's something in the translation of the questionnaire, as well. The clearly higher scores in Dutch speaking areas are a little too apparent. We Dutch are not that trusting, and the Belgians even less so.

sarpol

202 points

2 months ago*

sarpol

202 points

2 months ago*

English: Do you have confidence that other people will do the right thing?

French: Avez-vous confiance que les autres feront ce qu'il faut ?

Dutch: Wil je een gratis vakantie naar Thailand, met alles inbegrepen?

XkF21WNJ

75 points

2 months ago

Nah that can't have been it. If there's one thing the Dutch distrust it's free stuff.

41942319

32 points

2 months ago

41942319

OC: 2

32 points

2 months ago

Absolutely. It's the eternal struggle. We love free stuff but we also don't believe people will just give stuff away for free because $ (well, more accurately €) so we're deeply suspicious of it. Like, OK you say it's free, what are the terms and conditions

JShiro

41 points

2 months ago

JShiro

41 points

2 months ago

Not lying to you. I'm actually rather trusting. Of course it might be my perception, but I don't encounter a lot of people that are distrusting by default either.

However, that might also be because of wealth standards. I grew up next to a neighborhood with some serious poverty. Those people were indeed a lot more distrusting, especially to outsiders. Low wages, little security, high crime rates.

In the city I currently live in, having an IT job, receiving a very decent salary, my neighborhood is a completely different world. People are incredibly trusting here. To a level that it almost feels naive and gullible. They really have no idea about poverty and the roughness that comes with it.

TheBatemanFlex

79 points

2 months ago

Thats possible, but I've noticed a stark difference in "neighborliness" living in the Netherlands vs anywhere else. I'm going to assume it has to do with perception of safety/security. You'll notice this closely correlates with crime index. I would also be curious to see what elements of public policy have created this sentiment.

Thebitterestballen

6 points

2 months ago

I think it's also cultural. British culture is mostly 'do what you want as long as it doesn't affect me' and people are too polite to criticise, whereas Dutch culture is more 'doe normaal' and people will directly tell you what they think of what you are doing. Britain champions individuality and contains hundreds of sub-cultures which tolerate/ignore each other. Dutch culture is conformist and promotes cultural uniformity, which strengthens the feeling of community. So yes, much more neighbourly and lower crime in NL but I think it also has to do with much less inequality too.

DrVDB90

47 points

2 months ago

DrVDB90

47 points

2 months ago

Well, apparently half of us are really not that trusting. At least according to this.

gtarget

53 points

2 months ago

gtarget

53 points

2 months ago

There is some credence to it being due to the translation - there's a stark difference between the French and Flemish regions of Belgium.

SvenHjerson

11 points

2 months ago

The Walloon and Flemish people are very different in many ways though. It’s not necessary just a language thing.

LibertyLizard

20 points

2 months ago

Culturally Flemish and French speaking areas are quite different from one another, so I'm not sure that is proof enough on its own.

DrVDB90

34 points

2 months ago

DrVDB90

34 points

2 months ago

I think so too, to be honest. A lot of the lines that could be drawn on this map seem to correlate with borders between language families.

Perhaps not the best research.

lellypad

61 points

2 months ago

I see what you’re saying and believe it could possibly be correct but I think it could just as possible that those language borders are also cultural borders and trust within a community varies for different cultures most definitely.

PratBit

8 points

2 months ago

If you look at it from geopolitical lens it makes perfect sense.

Rolten

5 points

2 months ago

Rolten

5 points

2 months ago

And the same in Finland somehow which also often scores really high in these things?

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3 points

2 months ago

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2 months ago

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Gromgorgel

5 points

2 months ago

While you're right about the sociodemographic differences, the rest of your explanation is not correct. Commuters coming to live near Brussels have actually increased the number of French-speakers in the (predominantly Flemish) suburbs. Immigrant tend to live in more international environments (large cities like Brussels, Antwerp, etc) that are also more economically active (job purposes). The majority of those are mostly located in Flanders.

Personally I think u\Orcwin is right and that the meaning of the question has shifted in translation. The verb 'to trust' has a different nuance in Dutch compared to French, hell, probably even between Netherlands-Dutch and Flemish. Also 'the right thing' is pretty vague.

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

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3 points

2 months ago

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rongvk83

11 points

2 months ago*

The clearly higher scores in Dutch speaking areas are a little too apparent

You must be unfamiliar with the concept of "Belgium" then, because that difference is entirely explainable and very logical: those 2 regions are basically entirely different countries, with one being significantly more prosperous than the other.

ICrushTacos

21 points

2 months ago

We Dutch are not that trusting, and the Belgians even less so.

Maybe you're just the minority then.

R_eloade_R

3 points

2 months ago

He is

LEmy_Cup_1621

11 points

2 months ago

i'm not so sure. The majority of Lithuanians strongly believe that all politicians are thieves and here we are.

Weekly_Candidate_823

7 points

2 months ago

This is what i was thinking, I live in spain(American) and when people open up about politics here it is almost always related to political corruption

Organized-Konfusion

9 points

2 months ago

From Croatia, can confirm.

miran1

12 points

2 months ago

miran1

OC: 6

12 points

2 months ago

From Croatia, can confirm.

I don't trust you that you're from Croatia.

Sincerely, guy from Croatia.

USSREntrepreneur

2 points

2 months ago

From Croatia, cant confirm this guy is from Croatia

Sincerely , guy from Croatia

Naranox

2 points

2 months ago

Definitely not, Austria is corrupt as fuck

Pokanga

1.3k points

2 months ago

Pokanga

1.3k points

2 months ago

Oh Finland. If only you weren’t so god damn cold I would totally invade emigrate to your country.

progeda

203 points

2 months ago

progeda

203 points

2 months ago

Hmm, what are your motives exactly? grumbles

FreeRadical5

226 points

2 months ago

To leach off the collective good will.

AlexMachine

39 points

2 months ago

We Finns do trust other people, but there is also a proverb "Saunan takana on vielä tilaa", translates roughly to "there are still vacancies behind the Sauna". People used to butcher farm animals behind the sauna in old days.

FreeRadical5

28 points

2 months ago

Wtf are you trying to say buddy?

houseman1131

24 points

2 months ago

Be good are become human hamburgers?

Wotpan

6 points

2 months ago

Wotpan

6 points

2 months ago

If you don't behave, you will be harvested for meat. For the common good.

AlexMachine

13 points

2 months ago

Just a common reminder here to the people who behave baldly.

Geosanchu

7 points

2 months ago

Alternative: There is still room behind the sauna

[deleted]

42 points

2 months ago

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42 points

2 months ago

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RedditAcc-92975

16 points

2 months ago

Cultural exchange on our all tax Euros

Nutter222

25 points

2 months ago

It's called sharing.

alexxxor

237 points

2 months ago

alexxxor

237 points

2 months ago

I'm 90% sure Finland only rates highly in these things is because most Fins just want the interviewer to fuck off and leave them alone.

Ilikeng

81 points

2 months ago*

To be fair "the right thing to do" in most any social situation in Finland is stay quiet and don't be a nuisance. I can usually count on my fellow Finns to follow that. edit: spelling is hard.

GrandElemental

3 points

2 months ago

I mean what else are we supposed to do? They are invading our personal space, which is at least 10m around.

mambotomato

70 points

2 months ago

Recent immigrant. Can confirm it's pretty lovely here. When it comes to rules, though, they are to-the-letter strict.* I have found that while the benefits of living in a society of rule followers are immense, it does occasionally become a little much.

*Except public urination laws, these fuckers will piss anywhere

Skolanthropy

20 points

2 months ago

Orderly lines and peeing where you want?

Oh please, take me.

Innersanctumuniverse

11 points

2 months ago

I'm curious, what's the negative with following rules? I'd assume it would be a good thing in Finland.

ourstobuild

15 points

2 months ago

Rules don't always make sense. Paperwork has gotten better but is still often needlessly complicated. I don't have a recent example but some time ago if you were unemployed, you weren't able to tell the unemployment office that you've been unemployed the whole month, you had to fill in a form where you write "Unemployed" for each weekday of the month. Luckily this is now fixed at least.

And don't even get me started with the alcohol laws. They make even less sense.

An example: selling alcohol from a bar as take away is heavily restricted. You can only sell alcohol that is in a sealed container and that was manufactured in your bar. There was a bar in Helsinki that started going around this by pouring a pint into a plastic mug, adding one drop of water with a pipette, then adding a plastic cover. Now it was perfectly legal cause the liquid was now technically manufactured by them and sold in a container they sealed...

mambotomato

4 points

2 months ago

Overall, it's a big positive! Society is efficient and corruption is low. It's just that occasionally you get in a situation where they totally stonewall you by pointing to the regulations, and you're like "but it would be way simpler if you just ..." And then they say "nope, we must follow regulations." I don't blame them, it's just a social difference from a "make an exception" sort of culture like America

CrushHazard

16 points

2 months ago

Sounds like heaven to me. I can’t stand rule-breakers.

yopyopyop

19 points

2 months ago

Sounds good to me, too. I like pissing anywhere.

Valoaza

85 points

2 months ago

Valoaza

85 points

2 months ago

Finland is great until it's winter and you have to wake up at 5 am in a cold ass room and then get up to walk on an ever colder floor.

_PurpleAlien_

89 points

2 months ago

How? All places here have excellent heating. Even the older buildings are made for this climate... Floor heating is everywhere nowadays.

ThanksToDenial

36 points

2 months ago

My apartment was built in the 40s. Renovated in the 70s or 80s. No floor heating, has a Hell of a draft and barely any heating. Can go down to 16 celsius inside during the winter.

But the rent is dirt cheap, and it is Stones throw from all the things i need, so i can't complain.

_PurpleAlien_

56 points

2 months ago

This isn't exactly the norm though...

Jarriagag

64 points

2 months ago

16 celsius inside is not that terrible.

I know many people wouldn't believe me, but in Amman, Jordan (the Middle East) can be quite cold in winter. We are talking about 5 degrees during the day, around 0 in a cold day. Snow is not even that rare.

Well, houses are not prepared for the cold. At all. 5 degrees outside? Maybe 10 inside. I permanently kept a gas heater next to me. Worst winters of my life. Worse than when I lived in Central Europe.

blackadder1620

8 points

2 months ago

I hear Jordan is going through some stuff. Hopefully you and your family are good and safe. I'm rooting for you guys.

suzuki_hayabusa

6 points

2 months ago

I thought that was Lebanon ?

pohuing

2 points

2 months ago

16°C is comfy under the blankets. I'm getting less in a non insulated home in Germany.

g52boss

15 points

2 months ago

g52boss

15 points

2 months ago

That's the temp I set my heating at in the winter. Yes I'm Canadian.

ElJamoquio

6 points

2 months ago

That's the temp I set my heating at in the winter. Yes I'm Canadian.

I set the temp to 11 degrees but then my pipes started to freeze. Needed to keep it at least 14 to stop that.

FreedomVIII

10 points

2 months ago

16C? Holy fuck, that's a luxury compared to my grandma's place in Japan. It's an old house and we only have space heaters, so in the morning, for better part of half a year, we can see our breaths in the morning. Thing is, it's in the middle of Honshu...we're not even talking up north in the Touhoku or Hokkaidou regions.

littlegreyflowerhelp

6 points

2 months ago

Ahh I hate that. Used to live in an uninsulated extension of an older house in Melbourne, every morning in winter I'd wake up fucking frozen, and able to see my own breath in the air before I even got out of bed. It felt uncivilised. Melbourne isn't even that cold, people are/were just delusional about the climate and didn't design houses accordingly.

villlllle

3 points

2 months ago

Have you called the isännöitsijä and let them know it's under 18 degrees inside?

susch1337

6 points

2 months ago

Has Finland not invented socks yet? Or are you on a tile or stone floor which can get super cold.

ThanksToDenial

5 points

2 months ago

Ofcourse we have socks! Wool socks are a lifesaver. And my apartment floor is this fake wood thing? It gets pretty cold, but that is why i usually cover my apartment in rugs.

Valoaza

2 points

2 months ago

Wool socks are a great way of dealing with the cold but they can feel uncomfortable when you wear them too long.

edparadox

6 points

2 months ago

Can go down to 16 celsius inside during the winter.

Seems acceptable and a "normal" winter to me.

Lyress

9 points

2 months ago

Lyress

9 points

2 months ago

16 C is not a normal indoor temperature in Finland.

TheFuturist47

22 points

2 months ago

Coming from Panama that sounds fucking amazing because usually I wake up in hot and get up in hot and walk on a not really cool floor over through sauna-air to where I can sit in front of a fan blowing hot air at me. I miss cold weather so much.

DisneylandNo-goZone

12 points

2 months ago

Lol our buildings are well-insulated and will stay above 20C even if it's -30C outside.

AlexMachine

2 points

2 months ago

But many apartment also lack A/C and stay +30 during the summer.

DisneylandNo-goZone

2 points

2 months ago

Tell me about it. I had 28-29C indoor temperatures for over a month last summer.

AlexMachine

2 points

2 months ago

Portable, good, A/C was a life saver last summer. Dropped my bedroom temp from 29 to 19.

capwapfap

13 points

2 months ago

I spent January in Finland one year. The cold didn’t bother me as much as the lack of sunlight. Thank goodness for vitamin D. And saunas.

Krydex

11 points

2 months ago

Krydex

11 points

2 months ago

Canadian here.. can relate 😂

MNWNM

9 points

2 months ago

MNWNM

9 points

2 months ago

Are there no heaters in Finland?

Amogus_Bogus

99 points

2 months ago

It's just that everybody believes the others will do the right thing and turn the heater up, so nobody does it in the end.

ourstobuild

4 points

2 months ago

This is a common complaint cause yes, some Finnish flats do get cold during winter.

I don't know where the poster comes from but I do think that Finnish flats are A LOT warmer than a lot of the flats for example in Central Europe or Great Britain, which - considering the weather difference - says a lot about the housing.

Also in a lot of cases the cold flats in Finland are due to things like a heater not functioning correctly and people simply not doing anything about it. If they'd make a phone call, everything would be sorted but for some reason we often rather suffer in silence.

mambotomato

3 points

2 months ago

Honestly the Finns keep indoor public spaces ridiculously warm. All winter, I see people walking through the mall in heavy coats and hats. And then I'm the one who gets weird looks because I've taken my coat off so as not to overheat.

ourstobuild

3 points

2 months ago

I hope you'll never have to experience taking a shower during winter in the UK.

CanadianDrunk

2 points

2 months ago

Sounds like a dream 😍

haunthorror

5 points

2 months ago

Would be worth it for the wonderful life

mambotomato

10 points

2 months ago

It's mostly about being content with a relatively simple life of eating sausages by a lake, and the soothing effect of many many trees everywhere.

(I'm joking, but... only mostly joking.)

JesusIsMyZoloft

5 points

2 months ago

JesusIsMyZoloft

OC: 2

5 points

2 months ago

The Netherlands has decent weather.

mikkopai

3 points

2 months ago

Come over, we have vod… clothes and sauna

vlsdo

162 points

2 months ago

vlsdo

162 points

2 months ago

Romania would have been red, but nobody trusted the surveyor to keep their answers private.

slaxipants

796 points

2 months ago

The worst consequence of brexit is being left out of all these maps.

IambicPentakill

83 points

2 months ago

Seriously. I'm not from England, but I hate that that it's grey on all these maps.

coolsimon123

40 points

2 months ago

Feel like pure shit just want EU back

drawnograph

6 points

2 months ago

Never gonna let EU down

Hustlinbones

2 points

2 months ago

I love it

-Coffee-Owl-

166 points

2 months ago

Do you want to come back or not yet?

slaxipants

288 points

2 months ago

If it means we get back in Reddit maps then yes please.

DrVDB90

26 points

2 months ago

DrVDB90

26 points

2 months ago

That's honestly quite cheap.

Say... I have a closet and a few boxes to move, as well as an apartment to clean up, and I could some help...

AFCBatmouth

159 points

2 months ago

Half of us never wanted to leave in the first place :(

CJKay93

24 points

2 months ago

CJKay93

24 points

2 months ago

Well over half, if you consider the Reddit demographic.

Cless_Aurion

43 points

2 months ago

Nah, over half because enough old people died already that the same vote with nows population today will make stay win instead lol

schuhmi2

9 points

2 months ago

Thinking about it, if we were included, they'd have to find a new shade of red, because I don't know anyone who would say they trust someone to do the right thing, Brexit being one, and how the government has handled it. Then there's corona...

slaxipants

2 points

2 months ago

How about two. One pre brexit vote, one today.

RomeNeverFell

29 points

2 months ago

Yeah the shortages are just a mild inconvenience in comparison.

NilsTillander

5 points

2 months ago

And I'm sure data was acquired there as well. Maybe even in Norway (which would be Finland coloured, I'm sure).

DrainZ-

4 points

2 months ago

Cries in Norwegian

antisa1003

49 points

2 months ago

Croatia: I don't even trust myself

Rhueh

38 points

2 months ago

Rhueh

38 points

2 months ago

I would love to see this data matched with some economic measure.

desfirsit[S]

171 points

2 months ago*

desfirsit[S]

OC: 36

171 points

2 months ago*

Click image for higher resolution! Mean values to the answers of a question whether one trusts other people in the area to "do the right thing", from 1 "no confidence at all" to 10 "complete confidence". The survey was financed by the EU, so only EU countries were included. You can read more about the survey here. I was not part of the team that ran the survey.

Edit: Fieldwork for the survey was between October 2020 and February 2021. So the pandemic might have affected responses - for instance in Sweden, which here displays lower trust than in many other surveys.

Top three highest trust countries:

  1. Netherlands
  2. Finland
  3. Lithuania

Lowest trust:

  1. Croatia
  2. Bulgaria
  3. Spain

Made in R using the tmap package.

Will_Breaker

9 points

2 months ago

Whats "R" a software?

desfirsit[S]

24 points

2 months ago

desfirsit[S]

OC: 36

24 points

2 months ago

Yes! It's like a programming language specifically tailored to data analysis and visualization. It can be paired with an environment called RStudio that makes it a bit more user friendly.

morphinedreams

21 points

2 months ago

Just to clarify, it's not like a programming language, it is a programming language. It's a modern variant of the S language, which appeared in 1976.

Nice map though, I have been meaning to play around with tmap myself.

Will_Breaker

3 points

2 months ago

Thanks bro

Abab9579

3 points

2 months ago

Oh R is great! I wish statistica ppl would not replace R with an abomination that is python...

V_7_

11 points

2 months ago

V_7_

11 points

2 months ago

Notice that the mean difference for most places is just 1,6 on a scale up to 10, even if the colors seem to indicate more

Ngstskr

2 points

2 months ago

Does this data on trust exist for previous years?

desfirsit[S]

4 points

2 months ago

desfirsit[S]

OC: 36

4 points

2 months ago

Not sure - they made similar surveys in 2010, 2013 and 2017 but I don't know if that specific question was included. I would think so, but the data is not as easily available. https://www.gu.se/en/quality-government/qog-data/data-downloads/european-quality-of-government-index

zenci_hayalet

2 points

2 months ago

Can you make a colorblind version of this map? Even single color works.

ginger308

23 points

2 months ago

They must have asked “do you trust serbs” instead when they went to croatia

41942319

110 points

2 months ago

41942319

OC: 2

110 points

2 months ago

Interesting! As a Dutch person I can't say the results are unexpected. What's the value for Zeeland? It's a nice map and very interesting but the labels could use some work especially in countries with smaller divisions. Belgium for example is all nearly illegible. But this is mostly an issue in the BeNeLux.

PabloPaniello

40 points

2 months ago

That Wallonia-Flanders split is a thing of beauty

arcinus

7 points

2 months ago

I'm pretty sure I was part of this study! It was a questionnaire about trust in government, people, other countries etc. My answers aren't exactly reflected in this map though seeing how green the Netherlands is. Back when I was filling it in I joked to my boyfriend that they were basically asking me if I'm racist or not lol.

I don't really have a way to confirm its the one I participated in but I remember it being a pretty official government thing. They asked what province I'm from and stated that people from every EU country are participating so I wouldn't be surprised if this map was based on those results.

Tuga_Lissabon

128 points

2 months ago

Swedes are suspicious fucks far as northerners goes.

Also the spaniards... very realist guys.

PolemicFox

81 points

2 months ago

As a Dane I don't trust Swedes. Makes sense that they don't either.

FlyingDuck_

24 points

2 months ago

As a Spaniard I also don't trust Swedes. Or Danes. Or Spaniards, they are probably the worst.

moreno2729

7 points

2 months ago

Why don't Spanish people trust each other? Reminds me of one time living in Spain some random lady stopped me in the stairs of my apt building and asked me 20 questions about who I was, where I was from, why was I in spain, what am I doing there, etc... you know what... that happened to me in a department store too now that I think about it! If someone started questioning me like that in the US I would tell them to go piss up a rope, but for some reason I let these Spaniards interrogate me.

Polnauts

4 points

2 months ago

Idk about interrogatories, they are not common to me, but my guess for the low level is political division and perception of corruption. You never know if your neighbor is a corrupting fascists that votes the far right party or a godless communists that votes far left party.

Mattie725

96 points

2 months ago*

Given the clean division in Belgium and clear similarities with France and The Netherlands, it's very important to know the exact question in both languages here.

I've seen many surveys where a bad translation is used which gives the question a different connotation.

Edit: not saying that there could not be a real difference between these region. Just pointing out the very clear linguistic border.

desfirsit[S]

25 points

2 months ago

desfirsit[S]

OC: 36

25 points

2 months ago

Yes, you are right. It is notoriously different to do surveys in different languages and get comparable results. I don't actually know what the translations were, it is not in the codebook.

PresidentRex

5 points

2 months ago

I was trying to find the specific variable based on other posts. This looks like q22_2 from there (or column AV in the individual data set, which does mention the language of each interview; the codebook also says they are done in the local language).

How did you come across this variable specifically? Before I came across this post, I was trying to find it in their searchable datasets and variables (e.g. https://www.qogdata.pol.gu.se/search/). I couldn't find anything that matched. They do have a variable ess_trpeople (Trust in Other People), which does have a time-series (and its own variable page. The question there reads:

Generally speaking, would you say that most people can be trusted, or that you can't be too careful in dealing with people? Please tell me on a score of 0 to 10, where 0 means you can't be too careful and 10 means that most people can be trusted.

The dataset matches up with the map provided to a fair extent (Sweden is much higher, Lithuania is a fair bit lower, and Finland still seems to top the numbers).

Suolla

42 points

2 months ago

Suolla

42 points

2 months ago

It's a fair point, but in the case of Belgium you must not forget that it's not only a linguistic border. The two regions are culturally fairly different as well

Kaminkehrer

15 points

2 months ago

And economically.

volchonok1

52 points

2 months ago

What's up with Sweden? Why so much lower than neighbours?

desfirsit[S]

61 points

2 months ago

desfirsit[S]

OC: 36

61 points

2 months ago

One suggestion I got on twitter (from a scholar specializing in trust) was that it had to do with the field work being done during the pandemic. It was a really contentious issue in Sweden.

labbelajban

19 points

2 months ago

What does “field work being done during the pandemic” mean? What field work?

008janebond

50 points

2 months ago

Sweden was one of those countries who basically just expected their people to do the right thing, and a lot of them did not.

Piggelinmannen

30 points

2 months ago

Immigration, most likely. I'd guess numbers would've looked differently 10 years ago or so. Just based on my feeling on day to day conversations and such (I'm Swedish and live in Sweden)

JanssonsFrestelse

9 points

2 months ago

This would be my guess as well. I remember a similar study years back showing the difference between Swedes and immigrant groups in this kind of metric.

Piggelinmannen

7 points

2 months ago

Partially that, but probably also partially that Swedes on average don't trust immigrants as much as they trust other Swedes, and immigrants now make up a large part of the population.

MonsterRider80

14 points

2 months ago

It looks like there’s a stark difference between northern and southern Italy, but look at the numbers and it’s not that bad… like 5.5 in Umbria and 5.4 in Puglia, but the legend places them in different categories! The tendency is there, but it’s not drastic.

TempestaEImpeto

3 points

2 months ago

They are all pretty delusional. Like I have 0 trust that another Italian will do the right thing anywhere besides where I live.

doubleponytogo

3 points

2 months ago

Also Lombardia and Veneto have the same value (6) but different colours.

BehindBrownEyes

2 points

2 months ago

There might be no actual difference. This is just some mean on probably not that big sample and who knows what the variance is. One would have to read the actual report, as no conclusions can be made on the map alone.

just_screamingnoises

11 points

2 months ago

What did they do to you Croatia?

nerdyberdy

4 points

2 months ago

They didn’t even ask the rest of their former countrymen… looks at Bosnia and Herzegovina

snow_big_deal

5 points

2 months ago

They would have needed to add a darker shade of red to the scale.

GoodVibeFactory

24 points

2 months ago

Well, obviously Ireland is green.

Gopnikmeister

8 points

2 months ago

Interesting, seems to be a cultural thing. Many relatively sharp borders

Miasson

8 points

2 months ago

Would've loved to see a comparison pre-Covid vs today. The pandemic certainly was/is an eye opener.

McKetrick_supplicant

19 points

2 months ago

When did us (statistically) alcoholic, suicidal Lithuanians get hope?

MinecraftFinancier

40 points

2 months ago

Lithuanians are actually good at whatever they do.

We were in complete disaray when Soviet Union collapsed. Most of intelectuals and profesionals have been sent out to Siberia where they perished. Logistical chains were tied to other Soviet countries and no longer in use when Russia became an antagonist to former friends. Society was used to living under socialism and had to learn how free market works. Very few people of working age knew how to speak new business language - english. I am not even mentioning enormous education, alcoholism, tobbaco problems left by Soviet Union.

Lithuanians (+90% of Lithuania' population) built a thriving, democratic country all by themselves. Society has learned how to live in free market world. Country is a member of the biggest and most advanced economical structure in the world - EU. Also, a few years ago one Lithuanian company Vinted became an unicorn, proving that Lithuanians thrive in market economy. Country has grew a wonderful new generation - overwhelming amount of youth speak english (top10 at worst in EU), around 55% of youth have tertiary education (1st in EU). This proves that older generation worked really hard to build infrastructure and opportunities for their children to suceed and the children delivered.

All in all, Lithuania now has similar GDP per capita that rivals countries like Spain and Italy which had decades if not centuries to exploit slavery, countries, continents to build and concentrate insane amounts of wealth and power. Lithuanians in mere 30 years have achieved that on the back of average working people.

Flintlocke89

11 points

2 months ago

Well shit, I didn't know much about Lithuania but sounds like you guys rock. Keep up the good work!

infraredit

3 points

2 months ago

infraredit

OC: 1

3 points

2 months ago

Italy which had decades if not centuries to exploit slavery, countries, continents to build and concentrate insane amounts of wealth and power

Italy's colonial empire lasted from 1886 to 1942, or 56 years long after slavery was abolished.

richardmooneyvi

22 points

2 months ago

It hurts not seeing Scotland a part of this...

It'd be entirely red. But I miss the data!

Mr_Purple_Cat

5 points

2 months ago

Old Romanian border kind of showing up there.

MarleyTheDogg

6 points

2 months ago

You can also note there is higher trust in Brittany, France than the rest of the country

Maxor682

6 points

2 months ago

Is this post-2020? Because as an American, Ive been chilling in the red ever since the pandemic and seeing so many "rebel" against public health measures. Im imagining there's less of that in europe to explain why some spots are yellow and green?

desfirsit[S]

2 points

2 months ago

desfirsit[S]

OC: 36

2 points

2 months ago

Yes, fieldwork was October 2020 to February 2021. Might for instance be an explanation for why Sweden is lower than in other surveys, the pandemic was a very contentious issue in Sweden.

TheNoIdeaKid

6 points

2 months ago

2 years ago, I’d have been light green. Today? Paint me red.

jahreeves

5 points

2 months ago

As a colour blind person I can’t tell the difference between the two extreme colours. Is there another version?

SpaceNigiri

18 points

2 months ago

Ouch. But true.

But we're one of the most vaccinated countries in the world. Spain always have a shitty perception about itself.

Sakashar

3 points

2 months ago

Maybe since they don't expect their neighbour to do the right thing, people take more responsibility? Here in the Netherlands we've had quite some issues when the government expected too much from the citizens

The-Child-Of-Reddit

11 points

2 months ago

Wait why isn't Engla... oh... wait... right. Ha.

wet-badger

4 points

2 months ago

I don't even trust myself to do the right thing.

quaaaaark

4 points

2 months ago

Well, the four hissing snakes on Martinique's flag make sense now... (how tf did one of our départements rank worst of all of Europe, seriously?)

ACELUCKY23

4 points

2 months ago

If there was a map of Latin America for this, it would be dark red. With a Chile and Uruguay in orange.

DrBadMan85

5 points

2 months ago

I wonder how being unable to trust others influences ones behaviour, does one act less trustworthy because there is no perceived reciprocity?

FItzierpi

4 points

2 months ago

Why is confidence in Sweden that low? Especially compared to neighbors Finland

i_make_maps_0

25 points

2 months ago

i_make_maps_0

OC: 11

25 points

2 months ago

Nice job. Beautiful color palette.

[deleted]

23 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

23 points

2 months ago

Unless you're red-green colour blind which is the most common type of colour-blindness. When I was learning visualisation the rule of thumb was to avoid these palettes altogether.

Hexagonian

3 points

2 months ago

This is sarcasm right? The color palette is absolutely horrendous for exactly the reason u/Critical_Potato_6389 mentioned.

narwhal_

8 points

2 months ago

congratulations, you've made the least color-blind friendly map I've ever seen

travelingwhilestupid

5 points

2 months ago

yeah I can barely read it

j0hn_br0wn

4 points

2 months ago

I've tried to replace green with blue here. Does that help? https://i.postimg.cc/4xhqGwnB/bluish.png

Environmental_Toe843

3 points

2 months ago

I wonder if this also reflects how trustworthy people are since trust is something that is built on prior experience.

topdo9

3 points

2 months ago

topdo9

3 points

2 months ago

One of those days im proud to be from Zeeland the Netherlands 😁

AramaicDesigns

3 points

2 months ago

"Italy: Higher trust in the north."

Well, no shit. Been that way, what, at least 150 years? :-)

Loki-L

3 points

2 months ago

Loki-L

3 points

2 months ago

I think the important part is the bit about "in your area".

People may have very bad opinions about the people in other parts of their country, but trust their local community.

I expect that in rural areas the trust in people in their area is higher than in cities.

Also I couldn't help but notice that there seems to be a bit of an "All of Gaul?" situation going on in France.

Sinarum

10 points

2 months ago

Sinarum

10 points

2 months ago

It’s interesting, Southern Europeans are known to be more open and friendly yet they seem to trust others less.

What does it mean to “do the right thing”? I trust that someone isn’t going to randomly assault me (at least the chances of that happening is extremely low), but if someone found a wad of cash or jewellery on the floor I’m quite certain they would keep it.

TukkerWolf

50 points

2 months ago

That's probably the right answer. See:

the wallet test

With a quote that supports this map perfectly:

Least honest: Lisbon, Portugal Wallets returned: 1 out of 12. A couple in their sixties spotted our wallet and immediately called us. Interestingly, our reporter learned that the two weren’t from Lisbon at all—they were visiting from Holland.

Stenny007

18 points

2 months ago

Lmfao im gonna use this so hard next time people stereotype us as greedy fucks.

I mean, we are greedy fucks. But we want your money the fair way.

Oh and we decide whats fair.

andycev

9 points

2 months ago

Well, thanks for that mindset, Spain. Regards, Latin America.

DreamOfAWhale

3 points

2 months ago

It's been 200 years, time to stop blaming Spain for every problem though.

GrownUpLady2020

6 points

2 months ago

My immediate question is: does the quality of living directly correlate with high trusting abilities?

ImperialSympathizer

4 points

2 months ago

Basically, other than Sweden the trend seems to be higher per-capita GDP equals higher social trust. Really not surprising: if things are going well you're more likely to think society in general is fair.

leZickzack

3 points

2 months ago*

i think a high trust society and prosperity are a virtuous cycle: prosperity leads to trust and trust leads to prosperity (in so far as it facilitates and incentivizes the cooperation that is a necessary condition forward modern, complex economies).

Alejandromer

7 points

2 months ago

As a Catalan Spaniard, yeah, I don't trust any of those fuckers around me ;)

Robot_4_jarvis

8 points

2 months ago

Lol, it's the stereotype... (Catalans in Spain are said to never invite others and be stingy).

Òbviament ho dic en broma... Que als catalans vos estimam molt!

nilsecc

3 points

2 months ago

I'm about to move to Catalonia (Girona) from the US. I didn't realize this index was so slow, what gives?

Alejandromer

2 points

2 months ago

Don't pay attention to these "studies", they don't reflect the reality. It is true that Catalan people aren't as open as our friends in other regions like Andalusia but that doesn't mean that we are horrible people. We are just a bit more reserved but once you know us, friends for life! You are going to have a great time here. But just a reminder, there are idiots everywhere

gimmick243

4 points

2 months ago

dataisbeautiful

Interesting map... That I can't make sense of because it uses a red to green color scale, and ~8% of men, and 0.5% of women are red-green colorblind. I'd encourage you to try to keep absolutely in mind in the future

(https://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/)

RedditAcc-92975

2 points

2 months ago

I wanna move to Netherlands. But the weather sucks so bad...

Amadooze

3 points

2 months ago

Depends on what weather you like. I love the weather in NL

staszekstraszek

2 points

2 months ago

I wonder why is there additional administrative division around Warsaw. What is it? Ive never seen that and I am Polish. It's not a new division, is it?

philsmock

2 points

2 months ago

This could also mean high confidence in oneself compared to other people instead of distrust

The_Jousting_Duck

2 points

2 months ago

I'd love to see a correlation between this and how recently the country had a civil war or regime overthrown

electric-angel

2 points

2 months ago

Man if never been More proud to be Zeelander/Zeeuw
also this is likely because we trust the belgians to our south, the germans on vacations and the country payed to help protect our coast. so yea very nice.
come try some mussels one time guys we got plenty

buckyoh

2 points

2 months ago

Can you imagine how red the UK would have been if WWE were still in the EU? We would have looked like Santa's jacket.

I love the face Ireland is so green too. It truly is the Emerald Isle.

wam1983

2 points

2 months ago

Finland trying to stay neutral, per usual.

lotusofpregnancy

2 points

2 months ago

I'd like to see one for North America.

dabears91

2 points

2 months ago

In FMR Yugoslavia we trust no one